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== 05 Oct 2018 - Discord 2 ==
 
The entire structure of ravencoin is VERY different from almost every other project — so it takes a lot of learning
Thanks to all who participate
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the thing is that Ravencoin is a protocol not a company — this is why no partnerships -// not because they aren’t valuable but because they are not necessary
Ravencoin doesn’t have partnerships with companies because 1) there’s no one to make such a partnership 2) the companies and devs wanting to build on this don’t need anyone’s permission - they can just build
 
This is a good model — imho it’s the best model
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Finding the right balance of how much to talk about this project is hard
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Software is allowed to be centralized.
 
When people say this isn’t it’s not because they are lying to pretend something — it’s because it’s accurate.
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The main misunderstanding seems to be that ravencoin is controlled or directed by Medici or tZero
 
It’s just not the case
 
This isn’t some claim that someone is trying to make to comply with some rule — its the actual truth. Also there is no law that this would be relevant for — the idea that a company working on an open source project “makes it a security” is silly and it’s super insulting
 
Whether raven is centrally controlled or has corporate involvement / oversight / investment etc do not make it a security anyway — that entire line of thinking is based on faulty logic and not understanding now Ravencoin works or was issued
 
Ravencoin was released for free exactly like Litecoin — because it was never sold it was not an offering
 
Even if it had one person as a ceo and even if that one person worked for Medici it would not matter —- still not a security
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my time doesn’t belong to you. Usually when people write articles and mention someone they get quotes from them and check for accuracy first —- I do what I can to give accurate info.
 
I waste hours on this and the only result is time wasted
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It doesn’t matter if something it centralized
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That doesn’t make it a security
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A coin being centralized or controlled by a company matters when the company or coin raises money - a project like Raven is completely different
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there’s nothing whatsoever “hinging” on that — that’s crazy talk.
 
No reasonable or knowledgeable person I’ve heard of considers RVN a security. If they do then :shrug:‍♂️ Litecoin and Bitcoin would be as well. It’s insane
 
... no — not at all.
 
Ridiculous
 
This all stems from people who don’t understand securities
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There’s tons of info out there
Not sure why people assume a conspiracy
There’s no one “at the top” There’s no one “worried”
 
It’s REALLLY key to understand that this is an open source, decentralized project —- there is no person or people or corporation running it
 
There is no conspiracy etc
People just work in their own interests
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>>>>Ravencoin is not an entity at all <<<<
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What matters is whether ravencoin can and does work
 
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Crap projects have an interest in promoting “partnerships” and stuff — actual protocols don’t
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''(In reference (I think) to Medici / Overstock / RVN)'' I’ve said 100 times that they aren’t related — even made videos about it
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Rvn is better than ever - amazing - one of the strongest projects ever
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Because raven isn’t like that and isn’t a corporate project with “deals” and “agreements” / joint ventures and that kind of ico crap
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Medici donates dev time
Which is great
 
 
But people assume much more of a corporate tie
 
 
Which is a shame
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Not a gift from MV
 
 
MV gifts some dev
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Big difference
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There’s an impression that tZero and raven fit together in some special way or work together or that one platform is being designed for the other
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''(In reference to an article speculating on the connection between various OSTK / MV projects and RVN)'' thanks! I’m not a fan of the screen shot from discord — I’ve tried to make clear many times that the projects really are not related — that screen shot taken on its own and out of the context of its convo seems like I’m winking and being coy or something imho
Basically it was in reply to people who think the opposite: which is that tZero has nothing to do with rvn and will never list it because they are competitors or something
Neither is true
 
It’s really not a corporate coin -/ existed before anyone at tZero heard of it and before I joined the board
 
There’s no team of folks at tZero working on raven and it defiantly wasn’t designed by tZero or created for some tZero purpose
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Yes but ostk owns a mess of stuff and there’s no major direction from ostk to any portfolio cos to support ravencoin
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TZero and ravencoin are much less related than people assume
 
 
 
 

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